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01 August 2010 @ 09:11 pm
Fic: Girl Talk (DCU, girl!Jason, Steph)  
Title: Girl Talk
Characters/Pairings: Jasmine(girl!Jason), Steph
Rating: PG-13. Girl!Jay cusses just as much as regular Jay.
Contains: Genderswap AU, swearing
Word Count: 888
Summary: For the first time, Stephanie Brown meets the Other Girl Robin -- the one no one likes to talk about.
A/N: So many other things I should be working on. But suddenly, this.

In Steph's head, she had imagined Red Hood as being a lot like Catwoman. Sort of a slinky femme fatale that was just a bit less well-behaved than the rest of the superheroine set.

She was wrong.

Jasmine Todd scares the shit out of her. Just looking at her, Steph is more intimidated than she’s ever been by another female. This isn’t... this isn’t Nightwing with breasts and an attitude problem. Jasmine reeks of leather, cigarettes, and gunpowder. Reeks of danger.

Too late, Steph realizes coming here had been a mistake. But she can’t leave, can’t back down now because Red Hood is circling her with a sort of predatory, critical expression. Like a big cat stalking her prey, playing with the wicked, curved knife in her hands to remind Steph that Jasmine is very very capable of mauling her. That this one time, she almost killed another kid who had replaced her. No going back.

“Robin. Pleased to meet you,” Steph introduces herself with false bravado, because if you're going to bluff, bet big, right?

“I know who you are.” Jasmine spits on the ground at Stephanie’s feet. She’s got a voice to match the smell of cigarette smoke that hangs around her. Not Catwoman. Not Nightwing. "Lemme guess, Steph -- can I call you Steph?” The message is crystal clear -- I know who you are, and I know how to find you. “Anyway -- you came looking for me because people. Talk.”

“I don’t know what you--”

“Shut up, Stephie, I wasn’t finished. They look at you sideways and wonder if you'll turn out like me. But they never mention little old Jay, do they? They don't talk about the Other Girl, because they're afraid they'll put it in your head, the idea that you might not need to play by their rules. Or that they'll jinx it and you'll fuck up like I did.” Jasmine gives her a piercing, critical look, and Steph has no idea whether she likes what she sees.

“...They're morons. We're nothing alike, beyond your basic anatomy.” Jasmine smirks. “For one thing, I make a terrible blonde. So," she asks, pulling a pack of cigarettes and a lighter out of her pocket. “What the fuck made you think it was a good idea to look me up?”

Suddenly Steph can breathe again. Jasmine’s not going to kill her. She thinks. “I thought, since you used to be Robin, maybe we could, I dunno --”

“Oh, fuck. I was hoping you weren’t that stupid. Genuine dumb blondes make me want to hurt people, usually the ditz in question. Did you seriously come looking for me because you thought wearing the same panties gives us some kind of sisterly bond?”

“I just wanted --”

“Newsflash, Blondie. I don’t really care what you want. I’m here to tell you just one thing -- don’t fuck up.”

“What?” Steph gasps in confusion.

“Don’t fuck up. You’ll die.” Jasmine blows cigarette smoke in her face. “Even if you survive the actual fuckup, which, not a guarantee, I will come and kill you for it.”

“But why!?”

“Because you’re not me, Steph. I know that, and you sure as hell better know it, but everyone else? They’re gonna draw a connection that isn’t there based on the fact that we both have pussies. And if you fuck up, it’ll reflect on me. They’ll say little girls just shouldn’t play in Gotham, instead of just saying that you were stupid, and you fucked up. So don’t fuck up.”

Anger gets the better of Steph. “That’s rich, coming from you!” she sputters. “I’m the one everyone is comparing to a psycho, I’m the one who has to... to... um.” And oh crap, she’s yelling at a woman with lots of guns and a very sharp knife. She’s probably going to die now.

Instead, Red Hood laughs. “You’re cute, y’know that? Real cute. Spirited. ‘Spunky’. Good fucking way to get yourself killed, Goldilocks.”

“You would know,” Steph’s mouth says, about a second before her brain tells her what a horrible, terrible idea that is. Jasmine stops laughing.

And suddenly Stephanie is flat on her back, with Jasmine’s knife at her throat. “I think, Stephie,” she says, tracing Steph’s mouth with her knife. Steph tries not to breathe. “That you need to watch your pretty. Little. Mouth.” Jasmine taps her lower lip with the flat of the blade for emphasis on the last three worlds.

“Sorry!” Steph gasps. This close, the smell of leather is almost overpowering. “Sorry, Jasmine!”

The taller woman stands, twirling her knife thoughtfully. “Well, you didn’t piss yourself. I guess that’s something.” She does -- something with her hands, and suddenly the knife is gone. Jasmine touches her fingers to her white forelock in a mocking salute.

“Be seeing you, Stephanie. Watch your goddamn temper. And call me Jay.” She steps backward -- right off the edge of the roof.

Steph runs to look, but there’s nothing in the alley -- except a pile of trash bags accounting for Jasmine’s -- Jay’s lack of a broken ankle.


That was interesting.

And fucking terrifying, and Steph never wants to do it again. But she’s also pretty sure she hasn’t seen the last of the other female Robin.
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Bad Influencedaggerpen on August 2nd, 2010 04:37 am (UTC)
*<3's this verse and really hopes you end up doing more of it because genderbent!Jason may actually be significantly more badass than our usual one*

Also: I didn't mention this before, but I'm kind of flattered that my headcanon name for genderbent!Jay's name was the one you went with. ^_^

I am additionally horribly amused that this fic went up before the sequel to "Hell." I imagine there are about a dozen Jay fangirls who were brave enough to read that going "but... but... but..." right about now. :P
some kind of flaming cyborg thing: Aquaman Cthuluphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 04:55 am (UTC)
*may have to write more because Jasmine might actually scare me more than Jason*

And: It is a very good name, since it has not only the right first letter, but the right emphasis and syllables. So it sounds right.

And yes. I almost want to tag it as 'I'm going to writer hell' for that reason alone. XD
Bad Influencedaggerpen on August 2nd, 2010 04:58 am (UTC)
LOL. At least I don't get half the blame this time. :P

And she almost does. It's awesome.
some kind of flaming cyborg thing: Crocodilesphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 08:51 am (UTC)
You always get blame. The sheer fact that I talk to you while I write makes you an accomplice.
Bad Influencedaggerpen on August 2nd, 2010 06:17 pm (UTC)

There. I stick my tongue out at you.

</inside joke>
iesikaiesika on August 2nd, 2010 05:18 am (UTC)
The idea of a female Red Hood is just.... terribly, terribly interesting to me. I love how you described her, too.
some kind of flaming cyborg thing: Friendsphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 05:36 am (UTC)
It... kinda is. I have this feeling she makes up for being not as big by being twice as scary.

Thanks for reviewing!
iesikaiesika on August 2nd, 2010 05:43 am (UTC)
kirax2 and I were discussing Earth 11 a while back, and we realized how much a gender swap actually changes Jason's story, in a way it doesn't for, say, Tim...

If Girl!Jason (I like to call her JT) were committing petty crimes and possibly prostituting herself to support herself because her father died somehow from a combination of drugs and illness... it just...fells really different than the canon version. It's actually really strange, how different it becomes in my head.

Again, too, there's a difference later... Turn Dick into Dixie or Tim into Tammy and Robin remains fundamentally the same. Maybe Bruce would have exercised parental veto on Dixie hooking up with a horny golden alien guy, and the Batboy/Robin dynamic would have been completely different... but a female Red Hood changes things *completely*, somehow.
some kind of flaming cyborg thing: BatSawphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 05:49 am (UTC)
*nods* And amnesiac-homeless-post-resurrection Jasmine is likely to be taken advantage of in a way Jason in the same period isn't, and a preteen girl being beaten to death with a crowbar, crawling out of her grave, and taking the identity of the person who killed her somehow has more of an... I don't know, horror-slasher-movie vibe to it.
Alisaphire_dance on August 2nd, 2010 07:19 am (UTC)
Wicked, just wicked. Interesting how remaking Jason into a women brings a whole 'nother level of badass.
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 07:46 am (UTC)
XD Thanks! I think I'm going to have to do more with Jasmine. Even though I need another 'verse like a hole in the head.
ayoobeealexiel_neesan on August 2nd, 2010 08:34 am (UTC)
Hm. I like how the dynamics fundamentally stay the same ones, but how much scarier it feels. I like Jay like that, too...
some kind of flaming cyborg thing: Garakphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 08:46 am (UTC)
I think it might because female heroes/villains tend to code as sexy rather than scary -- but Jason is scary in any universe.*

*Offer not valid in Pre-Crisis and Tiny Titans 'verses.
eternal_moonieeternal_moonie on August 2nd, 2010 11:48 am (UTC)
OMG!!! This is AWESOME!!!!!
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 07:02 pm (UTC)
Thank you! ^.^
AJ: pic#99751613darthbatgirl on August 2nd, 2010 11:51 am (UTC)
Oooohhh love this verse. Jay is just scary here, though I love her exist.

some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC)
She's... really kinda cool.

Thanks for reading!
Ray G.milleniumrex on August 2nd, 2010 01:36 pm (UTC)
Ooh, I love this. Girl!Jay is scary and more than a little awesome!

Moar! :D
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 08:02 pm (UTC)
Thanks! Glad you liked!
saavikam77: Red Hoodsaavikam77 on August 2nd, 2010 02:18 pm (UTC)
Wowsa!! Jay as a woman is HARD CORE. >:D

some kind of flaming cyborg thing: Stablephoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC)
She is. ^.^ Total BAMF.

Thanks for reviewing!
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some kind of flaming cyborg thing: BatSawphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 07:45 pm (UTC)
PTSD. Not PMS. :)
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some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 08:14 pm (UTC)
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
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some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 08:52 pm (UTC)
Yep -- me and daggerpen have a whole laundry list including phobias and very probable incidences of brain damages. Boy's a mess.
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some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 08:58 pm (UTC)
Except not at all, because the last thing Jason needs is a fear-based psycho villain getting a hold of his issues. :P
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some kind of flaming cyborg thing: Aquaman Cthuluphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 09:02 pm (UTC)
Yeah. It's only slightly less hilarious than having the Joker do it. By which I mean not at all.
Bad Influencedaggerpen on August 2nd, 2010 09:10 pm (UTC)
This coming from the co-writer of Hell. :P Though, it is definitely the last thing Jason needs.

Which is why I'm kind of surprised you don't have at least one fic with it yet.
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
...Because if I'm going to let a shrink of dubious credentials poke around in Jason's head, it'll probably be Harley? She's more fun than Scarecrow.
(no subject) - daggerpen on August 2nd, 2010 09:29 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Kitt: Redhead_voices_xd on August 2nd, 2010 08:43 pm (UTC)
Guuuuh. More prof I would have such a crush on Jay if he were a girl. Yes, I suppose I have problems >>;. I'
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 2nd, 2010 08:54 pm (UTC)
Hahah. Don't blame you, she's awesome. Thanks for reviewing!
Sageshobogan on August 4th, 2010 11:28 am (UTC)
Okay, I love any Jason/Steph interaction, but Jasmine/Steph is even better. Hot damn.

You described her so well, and I'd love to see more of her!
Ooh, especially if War Games happens in this universe. (This is the only way I'd approve of War Games happening anywhere.)

some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 4th, 2010 09:09 pm (UTC)
:D Glad you like!

I've been trying to figure out the repercussions of Jason/Jasmine being around for the start of War Games. (Which she must be, if Steph goes looking for her as Robin) They will be... interesting.
Sageshobogan on August 5th, 2010 12:49 am (UTC)
Very much! <3

I could totally see Steph seeking out Jay, when it all goes wrong. How would Jay react to her not even knowing who Matches is?
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 5th, 2010 01:47 am (UTC)
Dude... if you switch the order of UTH and War Games... Red Hood might be at the meeting of gangsters.

And Jasmine says "For fuck's sake! Is he trying to get you killed?"
Sageshobogan on August 5th, 2010 03:19 am (UTC)
...Dude, yes. Would Steph put her on the invite list? ...Would it matter? "Oh, goddamit, now Jay's just gonna shoot everyone."

"...You know, sometimes I wonder."
some kind of flaming cyborg thing: Aquaman Cthuluphoenixofborg on August 5th, 2010 03:25 am (UTC)
If she wasn't invited, she'd crash it. XD Which is great, because it implies that Steph stole a plan that was woefully out of date, because that plan so doesn't work when one of the gangsters knows damn well who Matches Malone is...
Sageshobogan on August 5th, 2010 04:17 am (UTC)
Naturally. XD

I do find it kind of hilarious that the plan Steph stole was basically...Jason's plan, in Under the Red Hood. With less killing. (Which kind of makes it a stupid plan anyway, frankly.)
some kind of flaming cyborg thing: BatSawphoenixofborg on August 5th, 2010 04:35 am (UTC)
If Jasmine recognizes what the heck is going on, she might be able to exploit it to her own ends.

I'm considering combining this with a separate AU idea I had where Batman finds out what Steph is up to thanks to surveillance, and so 'Matches' actually shows... Not sure yet though.
Sageshobogan on August 5th, 2010 10:50 am (UTC)
I get the idea Jasmine can exploit pretty much everything to her own ends.

Oh, I can just imagine the tension.
(no subject) - phoenixofborg on August 5th, 2010 09:30 pm (UTC) (Expand)
LadybBlkRose: Red Hoodladyblkrose on August 5th, 2010 04:37 am (UTC)
Male or female the spirit of Jay is of one kick ass bitch w/ cramps. Wow same essence, different bottle, still Jay.
Thank you for sharing
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 5th, 2010 04:49 am (UTC)
^.^ Glad you liked!
Renorangediscord on August 8th, 2010 10:26 am (UTC)
I usually hate genderbend stories, but this was amazing. For some reason, Jason as a girl is super badass, mostly because instead of being a sexy femme fatale, she's straight up intimidating as fuck. And that's awesome 'cause we all know there aren't enough of those in the DCU.

Loved this. Also, I wonder, how would Red Hood get along with Cass -- the other super intimidating woman in the DCU? D:
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 8th, 2010 07:58 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I'm really glad you liked it!
I repay evil with ICED TEA.: steph + casszarabithia on August 9th, 2010 09:10 pm (UTC)
...I read this the other day, and apparently failed to comment. It's a good thing I was re-reading it to notice that error.

I love girl!Jason so very much. She's harder and tougher, but she would have to be, because all of the shit Jason went through in comics is already pretty bad would be infinitely worse if she were female shaped.

But I loved her interactions with Steph, and this:

They’ll say little girls just shouldn’t play in Gotham, instead of just saying that you were stupid, and you fucked up. So don’t fuck up.”

Is pretty damn spot on.
some kind of flaming cyborg thingphoenixofborg on August 10th, 2010 12:33 am (UTC)

Confession: I may have written the whole fic mostly for that line... Because I dunno, Jasmine replacing a boy, and then being replaced by another boy after she died -- that feels... important somehow.

Thanks for reviewing!
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